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 Post subject: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:26 am 
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Now, let me tell you what I was wondering for a few days...

Few days ago, I was thinking about Essence community project, ordinary things like when are we going to do something about it, gather people and so on and so on, nothing special....and after that, I got strange idea or not idea, just toughts:

There are so many engine communities building their own community projects and most of those are nothing special in the end. Ordinary games just to try it and play it in boring times...in the same time, there are many people in the communities building their own projects and most of all will not get finished or just roughly finished and some others will be done and playable. My point is, that this communities (vbGore, Essence, Elysium, Eclipse, Playerworlds...) have many people with great knowledge and skills but most of all are not used fully. So, you see what I'm pointing at? No? Well, let's continue.

If we could gather all this knowledge and skills of every invidual, we could build something great together. Project could even got closer to "MMORPG" title. From all people, that are lurking and working with these engines, you can get quite big team that could work on big project.

Ofcourse, that kind of project needs leadership....

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Just for sure, I must tell you that I'm not talking abotu community project, but standalone MORPG game. I know, that talking is always easier that DO things in reality and that this is mostly covered in theory, but it could get live practicly with big interest and serious act.

Please, I want to hear from you, what do you think, what are you opinions about that. I'm not saying "Yeah, let's do that!" but giving out something to discusse becouse I realy want to hear what you think about it.

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Sorry if something similar was started before...


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:02 pm 
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I think that would be great, in theory. There's the saying that too many cooks ruin a broth and I think that would apply to this situation very well. You're going to have a LOT of programmers if (hypothetically) everyone helped out.

Even if you used something like subversion to control all of the code and things you're still going to have a lot of people writing lots of bits of code of different quality levels. In short, i would probably end up being a mess.

So, with that in mind, you'd probably want to cut down the amount of programmers, so you'll probably end up with something like the average indy development team.

I know professional games development companies have quite a lot of developers, but with them there's the great motivator, money. If people start to slack quality wise then they run the chance of losing their job.

So yeah, that's my 2 cents. I'm sure you could organise this so everyone could help out. You'd need moderators and stuff like that. Other than the large glaring problem I've just pointed out, I think this could be a really fun idea and I'd love to help out. It would have to be in a .NET language though if you want me involved, I am NOT learning vb6 when I've already learned vb.NET. :)


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:26 am 
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Ofcourse, I didn't mean to gather all programers since that wouldn't work at all...I mean, we have many talented people around these communities, that we could easily make serious team of developers that could work together for long time on serious project but still for free.

Yes, in big companies, there is money...but, we're all doing this just for our hobby, right? I was just thinking that if all talented people join together, they could bring up great project above our imagination. I don't know...

That project would need good leader ofcourse, with basic informations about project and all. Next to that, leading person needs some fame around these communities and reference if many others would join that project.

Other, please, what do you think of it? (I'm not saying that I'm going to start that project, just disscusion about theory of it)


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:54 am 
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A team of developers needs a diverse range of personalities. Unfortunately all the people on these forums are the same kind of people, control freaks. You can only have one person in control of a project, the problem is, all of us have our own "great" ideas on games and so its hard to get anyone to work together on the same thing, because we will want to do other things.


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:59 am 
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Yeah there's that too... :P


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:22 am 
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if it falls under a trustworthy management (im not volunteering, totally overloaded with aleron, school(!), etc)

I would easily consider joining

I don't know how I would be helping with so little time available.
I suppose sharing some of my source (or all of it, depending...didnt speak a word with the team yet)
could help out (example inventory)
In trade I would appreciate some help on Aleron.

This is not a solid offer as of now, just some thoughts that are not to be seen as official statements.


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:17 pm 
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I think it is an idea with a lot of potential. If you can muster up the motivation to get so many people to work together. I'm not a programmer, as you all know. I can't contribute that kind of talent to this project, but what I can do is provide ideas and I do need to keep up my writing skills, as i want to become a science fiction author. People will only join a project if they think it has a chance to succeed. You will have to get some work done, as well as recruit some faithful membersbefore you'll start to see the diversity that you're looking for. Even if they dont eventually show up, well you still have a team and a project. Basically, you have to start small and build up.


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:21 am 
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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:57 am 
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I think that idea has the potential as well but like you said, it needs members with fame around these communities, what is hard to get I guess. Next to that, I don't have much experiences as project leader so I couldn't take that part but I can be project leader's assistant easily :P

Like I said, I'm not trying to start project like that by myself since I'm not so experienced, but it would be nice to be part of that project.


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:48 am 
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Well, I can help out with stuff in it I guess, but this'll need someone to take leadership or it'll end like the community project :(


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:55 am 
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But this project would need "devoted to project" people. And yes, it needs strong leadership - someone that is known around here even


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:26 am 
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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:15 am 
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I guess it would be fun to try once i finish school :)


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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:20 am 
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 Post subject: Re: [Disscusion / Idea]BIG project from all developers
PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:58 pm 
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