vbGore Free Online RPG Engine

After browsing about the forums for a while i've seen a lot of people say that learning VB is rapidly becoming a pointless task, and that learning C+ / C++ would be a much better spend of time.

At the moment my game plan is to pick up an average understanding of VB, I won't be coding engines myself, but i'll know enough to debug my GORE creations etc.
Whereas if I was to try and do the same with C, I would basicaly have to write the entire engine myself (i've got no intention of working in 3D, 2D is where I want to be ), something which would take years of programing knowledge

Just thought I'd get peoples opinions on the subject

First off, there isn't a language called C+

Second, I'd suggest to learn VB6. Learn, learn and learn some more and when you are very confortable with it, move on to other more modern languages, such as C# which uses the .NET framework.

You could just jump straight to this, but its just an opinion.

Hope you do well!

Fortran is outdated.
That doesn't stop people from programming with it.

Another great example is text Muds.
I recon that most Muds, *still* coded in plain old C.

So why are, all these people using outdated languages? I haven't explored all the possibilities, but personally, the biggest reason for me, is code-reusability. Why reinvent the wheel? Besides, One purpose of using a new language, is often to save time. Typically, you don't save time by starting from scratch!

With that said, plenty of arguments exist why/why not for VB6. Such as the most obvious downside of VB6; It forces your client/server to be windows dependent, without the luxury of the .NET code-base. But unless you're developing something truly massive, language isn't a big issue. For the sake of a small hobbyist online RPG, use whatever is available to you

That's my opinion on the subject.

Well the biggest downfall of vb6 is most likely the fact that you won't get a job with only knowing it, because all those companies who would have, have moved to .NET, these guys don't really need to re-use their old vb6 code, because it was probably just a hack job in the first place.

Atleast with FORTRAN you can still work for a science institute.

You probably won't get a job (at least a good one) with knowing just one language, no matter which one it is. People often just expect you to either know it, or learn it quickly enough. You're best off learning a few languages well (so you can get into the depths of it and get some real programming practice), but having at least a week of experience in many languages.

COBOL

vb6 is of course out dated. that's not really the issue i have with suggesting it to new coders today though. you do pick up some bad coding habits, and there's a lot of people that will say getting deep with vb6 will make learning another language more difficult.
with the amount of languages available now that werent really around in 98, which are just as easy to pick up, there's so many options which are a much better choice for someone trying to get in to programming.

Except you have to be very experienced these days to get a job with COBOL, like 20 years+ business experience. Well that's what Fujitsu told me. They are all about .Net now.




lol. *cough PHP *cough

After learning pascal i have to admit, vb6 is pretty much exactly the same. Except C coders will just about kill you if you say that.

believe it or not, it's just the opposite with COBOL. fujitsu may be one of the only exceptions. all the companies with good old fashion mainframes are desperate for cobol coders and are taking em fresh out of college. the 20+ years thing is what got them in that situation. considering so few people actually know the language, and all the old timers with experience are on their way to retirement, all these businesses are getting worried there wont be anyone to keep their big iron running. it's either spend millions migrating or they lower their standards and get some noobs in while the old guys are still there to get 'em trained.

oh ok coz i was planning on learning that ages ago, until some experienced coder from fujitsu told me there was no point anymore ha!

I guess ill have a look at it now.

I only have 2 probs with VB6:

1. The compiler is not available legally anymore (new, that is)
2. I HATE THIS LANGUAGE!

I really hate its limits xD
I got used to em, but coming from C++, is a different world.

I will go for C#(get familiar with .NET) and the PHP-suite (Webcoders, lol xD)

So yeah, I would recommend VB6 if it only had a free compiler, or any xD
Microsoft killed it with brute force.

PHP is crap too, python ftw!

VB is a good starter language if your trying to self teach your first language in my opinion. it gets slated alot but I still like it, allthough I have now fallen in love with c#

Try not to bump topics this old please

Id hardly call it grave digging if it was like 4 threads down.

He is a mod. Your argument is invalid.