vbGore Free Online RPG Engine

i was counting fun games only

tibia should have just ported their shitty PC game onto mobiles

the GFX would still fail, even for this platform...but ohwell

they made an even crappier game.
believe me, i got to lvl *i dont know* under 10 after days -.-

Which crappier game did they make? I want to try it out :)!

tibia = crappy
tibia mobile = even crappier

The. NET and a great choice.. More him and very vulnerable to hackers, eh that there are several programs that can reculperar the original program code easily..
So vai be good is a geito as not to leave the program vulnerable...

Until now I have not found any =/

lulz translatz0r.

Using that argument is stupid, you can easily decompile a lot of things.

You can also use an obfusicator on your code if you're really worried, but it's not a security issue if things are written correctly and they will be(eventually)

A secure client does not rely on being closed source. If you have security issues while open source, your client isn't secure - simple as that.

Like Nex mentioned there are obfuscators. But even so, decompiled source isn't too useful. It still takes a lot of effort to get it to the point of where you can recompile it. But more-so is it not even very useful without any form of comments and documentation, along with all the code changing from the compiler's CIL optimizations (jitting doesn't effect it since its just reading the exe's CIL, not the native image).

Also, code really isn't much use to people just as code. You have to give them much more. So its not like people waste their time decompiling .NET projects and stealing them. Even the whole .NET framework (along with XNA and such) can be decompiled, which is actually highly useful to see how things work on the inside.

So yes, it can be decompiled, but there are obfuscators out there, and decompiled code is hardly much help to someone (unless you have keys and algorithms you are trying to hide, but even those can be found with a hex editor or binary assembly decompiler).

VbGore is perfect now! Why VB.NET? If Nex can change to .net, it's ok! But I don't see many reason for this... when he finish it, probably MS will stop supporting it! I think more custom tutorials like scrolling would be good!
And for the new engine... well... I think you should put it open-source and free... I know, it's only me, but i can't really buy thinks "internationally" (this word exist?)! I'm brazilian, and international credit cards are expensive! PayPal is good, but it's boring to pass money to PayPal from Brazil! The only way is use that ptc program and things like this ¬¬! Boring! Then i can't have the engine!
I know it's only me (and half of the brazilians... don't change much things ^^'), but you know... some people don't buy cause they can't!

And if you put a semi-open code, like you said? And to get the rest, you need to pay? It will be ok i think >.>!

Sorry for the poor english!

nex didn't mean VB.NET specifically, just the .NET platform, which, by the way, I don't think Microsoft are going to stop supporting any time soon.

Also yes, "internationally" is a real word... :P

How is paypal boring? I mean it isn't exactly exciting, but I wouldn't call it boring :?

Just fyi, .NET isn't going anywhere. It is relatively new software and it is going to be a very long time until Microsoft stops supporting it. They are still working hard on developing it. Also, due to .NET's nature of JITting, it is going to be hard for it to go outdated. If they want something new, they just release a new version and change the way the JIT works.

another little benefit of c# is it's been standardized by iso and ecma. so even though the .net framework may belong to microsoft, c# itself is an open and non proprietary language. that means it will still be advanced regardless of whether or not microsoft continues it.
mono and dotGNU each have their own C# compiler which is completely independent of anything microsoft does.

Actually I think what is more important than their compiler is that they have their own .NET framework implementations, which is why you can run on other OSes. The compilers themselves aren't too great, nor are they required to use the other frameworks. Kinda like how Java code can be run by any Java Virtual Machine, thus support any OS that has a JVM for it.

well that is a major benefit. being able to run one app on any OS is huge, and the mono framework is for some reason further along than the compiler. the compiler is another good selling point though, even if it's not quite up to par with microsoft's just yet. only because if visual studio does fall out of favor some time down the line, you know there will be at least 2 alternate compilers and frameworks that will still be under constant development. if GNU shows their c# compiler as much love as they have their c compiler, no matter what microsoft does with visual studio, c# will be around for many years to come.
using a language that can be run on damn near any platform is one big plus, using a language that is non proprietary and it's fate doesnt lay in the hands of one company is another.

I like the interopability of.NEt i managed to get .NEt components that i've coded to work absolutely fine with VB6 components! (after a long long long time of COM interfacing i must admit) but it ran on my other 3 PC's ;)

I said PayPal is boring because it's so much work to pass money to paypal =X! I searched some ways to send money to paypal, and all ways need much work for me... and the faster ways are unsafe.

Well, if the new engine is the greatest, I will try to find a way... the problem is that I already tried, and I couldn't...
I played (and play some rare times ^^') MapleStory Global, and they have the "paybycash" option! I don't remember if the name is "paybycash", but that's a easy way! I can buy that way I think, and the problems will be gone for almost everyone ^^!

If Nex can change vbGore language, that will be great! Vb.net is really better than vb, but it will take maaaaaaaaaaany time to change it... But if he change, vbGore can become anything, on my mind, and it will be "extremely portable"... a good thing, and "thinking better", vbGore will take longer time to die (I know it's only on the start ^^!), because .Net framework is a big and new project, and support more languages than I thought! Yeah, i think it's time worth... and C# is even better! If gutterpunk is correct, we can use alternate solutions to compile ^^! If Microsoft make the program paid, we can simple change the "compiler" (on my mind, I'm not sure if what I'm saying is correct)

Well you people know what to do... I think Nex can decide now, after 8 pages, if he didn't.
And we can "care" more to vbGore now, than the new engine... because we don't know anything about the new engine... For sure it's good, cause Spodi did it, but if "we" (the community) "restart" with a new engine, it will take time for anything again... like... for tutorials appear, for people understand the engine and help other, for people finish the game (vbGore projects are getting online only now), for people see that the engine is good and start using. Then I think a new engine will be great, if it don't change vbGore things... and if vbGore keep "evolving" (or restart "evolving" with Nex...)

Sorry for the poor english ^^'! What i put on the middle of " " are words or expressions that I'm not sure if they can be used.

not really, although vbgore was well documented, im sure the new engine will be much more adaptable with the OOP.